Everyone assumes Trump's fund is destined for January 6 defendants. The actual documents say something far different, creating a legal problem critics cannot ignore.
It doesn't matter a rat's ass what the document says, it's how the document was created in the first place. It's self-dealing - Trump sued the government, with a completely baseless case by the way per usual, and then settled with himself. And he will determine who decides to get compensated. Corruption at its finest! It would be a whole different story if the fund were created through proper legislative channels. Wake up Michael!
We already have a fund in the justice department for claims against the government. This has been established for years. Trump is adding to the already existing fund and giving it to an unknown board to govern. Senators have asked that the J6ers not be included. The justice department could not confirm it. Until it is confirmed, do not get your hopes up. Rudy and the rest of the gang will come before you. Trump put you in jail, not Biden. This fund is supposed to be for those that Biden prosecuted. You, Michael are not included.
Surely the makeup of the adjudicating panel, the panel that decides if Michael Cohen is deserving of support, is the key element here - not the window-dressing of inclusiveness in those that *may apply* for aid that you point out.
Exactly. Yes, anyone can submit a claim. But submitting a claim and being paid out on a claim are two entirely different things. I know this because I worked in an insurance claims department for many years. Claims get denied all of the time based on the person or people tasked with evaluating claims. If this horrid slush fund somehow survives the many legal challenges, does Michael Cohen really think Trump's hand-picked claims review panel will approve his claim?!? Or Jim Acosta's or anyone else that has been victimized by the Trump Administration? Those will be denied quicker than Trump can inhale a hamberder.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia needs to be at the top of the list if this fund is actually going to be put into effect. NO ONE was mistreated more than he was. He didn't commit any crimes, he wasn't sent to club fed...he was sent to CECOT, in El Salvador. His lawsuit NEEDS to start at $500 million. Every person being held in trump's concentration camp, without due process, NEEDS to get a slice of the pie.
I agree completely that there are theoretical "claims" that could be filed by hundreds of tRump DOJ and FBI victims, but the reality of reasons and outcomes should not be ignored. Once the barn door is open, it's not likely we'll get our money back. Words matter, but intent is so very clear that I wholeheartedly oppose this fund. No tRump critic will EVER be approved for anti-weaponization compensation. Ever. I would feel differently if the panel deciding claims were truly non-partisan and subject to independent judicial review.
Words matter but so does intent. If you truly believe this fund was established to help those who legitimately suffered miscarriages of justice, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
Aren’t the cases filed against this slush fund challenging the fund itself, and the administration of it? Public money being doled out without any oversight by the public. That’s the fraud here.
Our real problem with this fund is not that someone unsuitable might be compensated, but that this particular fund exists at all. Grabbing 1,776 billion dollars from taxpayers and handing it to a Department of Justice wholly controlled by Donald J Trump, a known fraudster and felon; and doing this with no imprimatur from Congress, is completely wrong, undemocratic, and unAmerican. An application to the fund is really a supplication to Trump, to receive largess from his rotting hand. If this thing actually goes forward, no one should be under the assumption that anyone but a Trump crony or acolyte would receive anything, language of the paperwork. And everyday Americans from whose pockets this money was grabbed will be the poorer for it.
Well-said and very clear - i completely agree. This is the initial problem. Then - if the fund gets set up and operating - additional lawsuits will challenge who gets what.
No the entire thing is beyond despicable .. It is where, how, and why he is getting the money. If you as an individual for want to sue fine. No this will not stand .
Michael, come on. You have two brain cells to rub together. You know as well as I do that you and Acosota and no one who ISN’T A TRUMP DICK-SUCKING MAGAt is going to get a dime!!! You know what this fund is for. We all do. First it will go to The Orange Pudding of Smegma and his family, then to his oligarch buddies, then the J6 white trash pieces if shit will get some beer money, or maybe enough to replace one of their missing front teeth.
So anyone can apply. Who is setting up the person or panel that will decide who gets some funds? Will there be recourse if you are denied? Is there any criteria for how cases are decided and funds disbursed?
It still looks like a slush fund funded by the taxpayer to provide funds to anyone Trump would like to bribe!
I rarely disagree with you, Michael. I generally feel you are on point and tell it “like it should be told”. BUT… i respectfully disagree this time. There should be AUTOMATIC exclusion language in the document for so many! They could “apply” and receipt of compensation will be determined by people chosen by Trump??!?! Oh hell no! People who were ACTUALLY harmed physically, emotionally & financially by his political retribution will NEVER get justice , never mind $$!! I would hope that you, Jim Acosta,Letitia James, Comey, etc get something for the hell you’ve been put thru but trusting this administration to reward ANYBODY but their “birds of a feather” criminals is, IMO, daydreaming at best.
Haven't you learned yet that words don't matter to trump and/or committees appointed by him that will be overseeing the claims? If they ever followed the written words, it would be a first. The courts are looking into the very questionable origins of this latest attempt to slip another one by the American People, and from what I can tell (by both reading and listening) there is a very strong case to stop it in its tracks.
I get your point but do you really think this DOJ is going to award you compensation or James Comey or Jim Acosta etc for vindictive prosecution?
It doesn't matter a rat's ass what the document says, it's how the document was created in the first place. It's self-dealing - Trump sued the government, with a completely baseless case by the way per usual, and then settled with himself. And he will determine who decides to get compensated. Corruption at its finest! It would be a whole different story if the fund were created through proper legislative channels. Wake up Michael!
We already have a fund in the justice department for claims against the government. This has been established for years. Trump is adding to the already existing fund and giving it to an unknown board to govern. Senators have asked that the J6ers not be included. The justice department could not confirm it. Until it is confirmed, do not get your hopes up. Rudy and the rest of the gang will come before you. Trump put you in jail, not Biden. This fund is supposed to be for those that Biden prosecuted. You, Michael are not included.
Surely the makeup of the adjudicating panel, the panel that decides if Michael Cohen is deserving of support, is the key element here - not the window-dressing of inclusiveness in those that *may apply* for aid that you point out.
Exactly. Yes, anyone can submit a claim. But submitting a claim and being paid out on a claim are two entirely different things. I know this because I worked in an insurance claims department for many years. Claims get denied all of the time based on the person or people tasked with evaluating claims. If this horrid slush fund somehow survives the many legal challenges, does Michael Cohen really think Trump's hand-picked claims review panel will approve his claim?!? Or Jim Acosta's or anyone else that has been victimized by the Trump Administration? Those will be denied quicker than Trump can inhale a hamberder.
Ha, you had it at "Those will be denied quicker than Trump can inhale!" (though, possibly, exhale ...). ;-)
I was going to say that the claims will be denied quicker than Melania swats away his hand, but I doubt the panel could work THAT fast!
Trump has zero authority to appropriate funds. This is a slush fund for criminals and grifters. How about funding health care or SNAP or US AID.
Kilmar Abrego Garcia needs to be at the top of the list if this fund is actually going to be put into effect. NO ONE was mistreated more than he was. He didn't commit any crimes, he wasn't sent to club fed...he was sent to CECOT, in El Salvador. His lawsuit NEEDS to start at $500 million. Every person being held in trump's concentration camp, without due process, NEEDS to get a slice of the pie.
And won't, if any part of the Trump Admin decides who gets a slice.
He wasn’t prosecuted by Biden, so he is not eligible. Read the fine print
So, Biden wasn’t the MF’er, just Trump. Who would have guessed?
I agree completely that there are theoretical "claims" that could be filed by hundreds of tRump DOJ and FBI victims, but the reality of reasons and outcomes should not be ignored. Once the barn door is open, it's not likely we'll get our money back. Words matter, but intent is so very clear that I wholeheartedly oppose this fund. No tRump critic will EVER be approved for anti-weaponization compensation. Ever. I would feel differently if the panel deciding claims were truly non-partisan and subject to independent judicial review.
Words matter but so does intent. If you truly believe this fund was established to help those who legitimately suffered miscarriages of justice, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn I’d like to sell you.
Aren’t the cases filed against this slush fund challenging the fund itself, and the administration of it? Public money being doled out without any oversight by the public. That’s the fraud here.
That is why this fund must have congressional oversight.
Our real problem with this fund is not that someone unsuitable might be compensated, but that this particular fund exists at all. Grabbing 1,776 billion dollars from taxpayers and handing it to a Department of Justice wholly controlled by Donald J Trump, a known fraudster and felon; and doing this with no imprimatur from Congress, is completely wrong, undemocratic, and unAmerican. An application to the fund is really a supplication to Trump, to receive largess from his rotting hand. If this thing actually goes forward, no one should be under the assumption that anyone but a Trump crony or acolyte would receive anything, language of the paperwork. And everyday Americans from whose pockets this money was grabbed will be the poorer for it.
Well-said and very clear - i completely agree. This is the initial problem. Then - if the fund gets set up and operating - additional lawsuits will challenge who gets what.
No the entire thing is beyond despicable .. It is where, how, and why he is getting the money. If you as an individual for want to sue fine. No this will not stand .
Michael, come on. You have two brain cells to rub together. You know as well as I do that you and Acosota and no one who ISN’T A TRUMP DICK-SUCKING MAGAt is going to get a dime!!! You know what this fund is for. We all do. First it will go to The Orange Pudding of Smegma and his family, then to his oligarch buddies, then the J6 white trash pieces if shit will get some beer money, or maybe enough to replace one of their missing front teeth.
Are you holding your breath Michael ? 🤢
You will never know if you will be awarded if you don’t try. You go for it. We will all support you in your endeavor.
I want a cut .
So anyone can apply. Who is setting up the person or panel that will decide who gets some funds? Will there be recourse if you are denied? Is there any criteria for how cases are decided and funds disbursed?
It still looks like a slush fund funded by the taxpayer to provide funds to anyone Trump would like to bribe!
I rarely disagree with you, Michael. I generally feel you are on point and tell it “like it should be told”. BUT… i respectfully disagree this time. There should be AUTOMATIC exclusion language in the document for so many! They could “apply” and receipt of compensation will be determined by people chosen by Trump??!?! Oh hell no! People who were ACTUALLY harmed physically, emotionally & financially by his political retribution will NEVER get justice , never mind $$!! I would hope that you, Jim Acosta,Letitia James, Comey, etc get something for the hell you’ve been put thru but trusting this administration to reward ANYBODY but their “birds of a feather” criminals is, IMO, daydreaming at best.
Haven't you learned yet that words don't matter to trump and/or committees appointed by him that will be overseeing the claims? If they ever followed the written words, it would be a first. The courts are looking into the very questionable origins of this latest attempt to slip another one by the American People, and from what I can tell (by both reading and listening) there is a very strong case to stop it in its tracks.